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These 450 Marlin loads are generating slightly lower velocities than their 45-70 counterparts. This is because the 450 Marlin brass (as made by Hornady) has a heavier web and as such the powder capacity was lessened, so the amount of propellant we can fit into the case is slightly less than with Starline 45-70 brass. These loads utilize an FMJ-FN bullet designed to penetrate 5 to 6 feet in flesh and bone.